Journler For Mac
Due to the problem I've experienced with Yojimbo (see other thread) I've been thinking that maybe 'that type' of software isn't the best solution to the problem. I'm starting to worry about my reliance on a program to store important info. What happens, when I next upgrade, if the software is no longer available, or does not work on some new architecture? Does anyone have a method of storing the sort of thing for which we use Yojimbo, DevonThink, Journler, et al, that either doesn't use proprietary software, or possibly even any software at all, perhaps a local web-site and/or collection of folders in finder? Maybe an SQL database could be the answer, then the front end could be a web-page - making sure, of course, that no non-standard SQL features of that database are used. I'd be interested to hear thoughts on this subject.
Due to the problem I've experienced with Yojimbo (see other thread) I've been thinking that maybe 'that type' of software isn't the best solution to the problem. I'm starting to worry about my reliance on a program to store important info. What happens, when I next upgrade, if the software is no longer available, or does not work on some new architecture? Does anyone have a method of storing the sort of thing for which we use Yojimbo, DevonThink, Journler, et al, that either doesn't use proprietary software, or possibly even any software at all, perhaps a local web-site and/or collection of folders in finder? Maybe an SQL database could be the answer, then the front end could be a web-page - making sure, of course, that no non-standard SQL features of that database are used. I'd be interested to hear thoughts on this subject.
Click to expand.I use this for my document library: I had previously used DevonThink but was put off by the database format it used. If that got corrupted I'd have lost everything, so that meant retaining a copy of all documents just in case, which partly defeated the object of using the software for me. The big advantage of Together in my view is that the document you put import into it are just kept in a folder that you can browse in Finder if you want. Should the app fail to work for some reason, you still have all your files accessible. I have set up various folders for different types of document, and that folder tree is exactly what you see if you browse in Finder. Can't say I have had any real complaints so far, and the developer does frequent updates.
I assume you are running Leopard, but in case you are still on Tiger you could try EagleFiler: It does essentially the same thing as Together, keeping your files in their original state so that you can access them in Finder. I preferred Together in general usage, but you could try demos of both and see which you prefer. I use this for my document library: I had previously used DevonThink but was put off by the database format it used. If that got corrupted I'd have lost everything, so that meant retaining a copy of all documents just in case, which partly defeated the object of using the software for me. The big advantage of Together in my view is that the document you put import into it are just kept in a folder that you can browse in Finder if you want. Should the app fail to work for some reason, you still have all your files accessible.
I have set up various folders for different types of document, and that folder tree is exactly what you see if you browse in Finder. Due to the problem I've experienced with Yojimbo (see other thread) I've been thinking that maybe 'that type' of software isn't the best solution to the problem. I'm starting to worry about my reliance on a program to store important info. What happens, when I next upgrade, if the software is no longer available, or does not work on some new architecture?
Does anyone have a method of storing the sort of thing for which we use Yojimbo, DevonThink, Journler, et al, that either doesn't use proprietary software, or possibly even any software at all, perhaps a local web-site and/or collection of folders in finder? Maybe an SQL database could be the answer, then the front end could be a web-page - making sure, of course, that no non-standard SQL features of that database are used. Click to expand.Another vote for Eaglefiler here. As others have pointed out, it maintains an index of files that are stored in a Finder library rather than a proprietary library.
This was initially what attracted me to it - that and the fact that one wasn't restricted to a flat hierarchy as in Yojimbo. I've recently tried out many of the alternatives again but keeping coming back to EagleFiler because of its ubiquitous capture - pressing F1 or alt+F1 in almost any application will capture that content.
By comparison Devonthink, although its searching is awesome, is a confusing mixture (IMO) of scripts - I have to add I.don't like docks, shelves etc to capture content, I prefer hotkeys. Of them all, Together came closest to being the ideal. It had fast startup times compared to EagleFiler's glacial times; the library was open and it could index as well as capture files. There just wasn't quite enough of an advantage to switch. Valve leaks teaser images for announcement of steam (and. Cheers, Steve The reply-to email address is a spam trap. Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk.
Click to expand.How is it 'captured'? Does it, for example, if you're viewing a web-page, does it produce a PDF, save the HTML and images, jpg snapshot, or just the URL?
What about a text selection, is that a snippet, or a text file? I'm quite interested, but I don't want to have to install too many bits of software to try them out - I've only just freed up 20gig and I like the space. The SQL option is still appealing, but I think that'll be a project rather than something I can put together in an evening. Click to expand.This prompted me to try 2.0 again and I still don't see any easy way to capture data. I would love to be wrong though. If I'm in the Finder and click on a file I can move it to DT by using the installed script.
There's nothing in the Services menu to capture the file as far as I can tell. If I'm on a web page in Safari I can print the page to PDF which is identical to EagleFiler but I can't see how to create a web archive. There's noting in the scripts menu except options related to selection or link to current document (which generates an error). If I'm in Mailsmith (a quirky choice I admit) and try to capture a message the scripts don't work and there's nothing in the services menu. With EagleFiler I can capture all of these by hitting F1.
I do have to admit that DevonThink is a much better application for managing a library and searching but I value the ubiquitous capture more. Cheers, Steve The reply-to email address is a spam trap. Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk.
A notebook and entry based information manager. It is simple, it is elegant, it is powerful. Journler is designed to unite text and media in creative endeavor.
Journler For Mac
It offers a place to store your thoughts and ideas while connecting them with media of any kind. Journler's inline media viewer supports audio-video, images, PDFs, WebArchives, websites, email and Address Book contacts. When you're ready to organize, Journler does entries by date and folder as well tiered folders and smart families with auto-tagging. Journler includes lightning search and on the fly filtering of your entries. There is Spotlight and AppleScript support as well as Mail, iWeb, iPod, and blogging integration. The new Drop Box and JPanel make it easy to get stuff in, while the Lexicon helps you find the relationships between your data. Journaling is just the beginning.
Note to individual users: The license has changed. Journler remains donationware for personal use.